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Telemetry "abort", "knock it off" or ?
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Telemetry "abort", "knock it off" or ? 1 year, 1 month ago #130

Our fixed wing team asked me (a dyed in the wool rotorhead) if there is an agreed standard of phraseology for "stop what your doing NOW" calls from the Test Director.
Depending on the urgency I have used "abort", "knock it off", "off condition" or even when things are getting really out of control- "STOP STOP STOP". Obviously these and the subsequent actions were pre briefed.
Is there a standard out there somewhere? We (SFTE) should write one if there isnt!
What do you guys use?

FT Terminology 1 year, 1 month ago #133

SFTE has not yet discussed standard phraseology, but this forum is an excellent place to start things off. Honda Aircraft is a new company that pulled people in from all experience backgrounds. We used this when writing our Telemetry Room Operations manual which includes. among other things, radio call between the TM room and flight crew. Some examples include

"Abort- Abort-Abort]" Stop testing immediately and recover to safe (e.g. previous) conditions. This call is generally reserved for matters of flight safety.

"Standby" Do not begin test, but remain at or near initial conditions and be ready to proceed.

"Terminate" Stop testing as soon as practical due to non-safety concerns (e.g. loss of data, unacceptable technique or turbulence).

"Clear" TM is ready for flight crew to begin next planned test.

Re: Telemetry abort, knock it off, or ? 9 months, 2 weeks ago #180

"Terminate" has a very different meaning when dealing with missiles and remotely piloted vehicles that have a "Flight Termination System," designed to quickly end the flight of the "vehicle" and limit possible damage to the surrounding environment (or people).

On programs such as that, you should never say the "T" word unless you mean to abruptly end the flight or destroy the vehicle. In some environments, this means "push the red, self-destruct button..." I know a guy that's done this three times...

I have used "Abort, Abort, Abort" (with volume and inflection in the voice) before, where we wanted the vehicle brought quickly back to a safe point in the envelope -- because we did not like something (state or trend). Frequently, crew would like for us to add "why" we wanted them to stop -- e.g., Beta-dot, alpha-dot, or that still respected "bad feeling about this..."

"Recover" is what I've said at a completion point, end point or non-dynamic (non-urgent) cessation of a test point -- asking the crew to gently return to the stable or trim state preceding the test point. For steady heading sideslips or wind-up turns, I prefer this terminology since ceasing the maneuver in an overly dynamic fashion can sometimes be more dangerous than the maneuver itself. For people of some background, this might have a different meaning: return to the ship and land, for one.

"Hold" would be for "don't stop, but don't go (further)," e.g., while we look at the data.

"Continue" might be self explanatory...

Bottom line, brief what the expected calls are INTENDED to mean and what response is desired from each call -- before each and every flight.

Safe testing to you all,

-Pete Donath

Re: Telemetry abort, knock it off, or ? 5 months ago #187

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I've always been taught to always use "Knock it Off"....

Carla Jackson

Re: Telemetry "abort", "knock it off" or ? 4 months, 1 week ago #188

I've always used the terminology described by Al. Of course in the civil flight test world we don't have to worry about the semantics of "terminate".

Jim Brown

New Guidelines for Telemetry Control Room radio ca 3 months, 4 weeks ago #190

For everyone interested in best practices, the SFTE Tech council drafted up the attached guideline for making clear and consistent radio calls during flight test missions. It does not address Air traffic control but rather terminology between test participants (e.g. TM control room, chase aircraft, weather station). Please review and provide feedback to me. We plan to place this in the next edition of the SFTE Reference handbook.
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